Four Common Finishing Mistakes (and how to avoid them)

by Eric Meier

1. Not enough sanding

In my very earliest days of woodworking, I used to think that sanding through all the different grits of sandpaper was for anal-retentive chumps. “Nonsense,” I thought, “I’ll just use some 60 grit to get out the larger defects, and then some 220 to smooth things out.” As it turned out, I was the chump.

Can you spot the cross-grain sanding scratches? I see this every night because this is my own nightstand made 10+ years ago.

Differing grits of sandpaper are meant to save you time, not waste it.

If you’re just starting out, and you’re put off by the apparent large price of all those different grits of sandpaper, I’d highly recommend buying a variety pack that has a few sheets of each grit included. Then you’ll realize, especially if you value your time, that getting the right sandpaper definitely isn’t too expensive: it’s well worth it.

Basically, you are putting successively smaller and smaller scratches in the wood until, ultimately, the scratches become so small that they are “invisible” to the naked eye. So when you make coarse scratches in a wood surface—say, for instance, 60 or 80 grit—the fastest way to remove those scratches is with a medium grit: too large a grit (only slightly finer than the paper in your previous step), and you’ll be adding needless work; but too fine a grit, and you could sand for hours and still not remove the deep scratches.

Insufficient or poor sanding is a classic mistake common to a lot of beginning woodworkers. The wood is either given a quick, insufficient sanding; or else, if it is sanded to a finer grit, it is done haphazardly, and while skipping grits. The resulting surface my feel smooth to the touch, and may even look good from a distance with casual examination, but the proof is in the pudding, as they say.

Once a finish (and especially if a stain is applied) the sanding scratches will become all that much more noticeable and pronounced. You want to fix sanding mistakes before they’re embedded (and accented) under a few thousandths of an inch of pigments, dyes, and resins.

Learn how to inspect your sanding job between each grit

It’s not enough to just feel the wood or take a casual look and think “that’s probably good enough.” Sure, pros can sometimes get away with  this lackadaisical approach because they have years of experience. But when you’re first starting out, anything that possibly can go wrong probably will go wrong: and nowhere is this more apparent than in the sanding.

Nothing’s worse than going through all the grits only to find that you still have some 60 grit scratches left in the wood from the very first step. To check, wipe all the sanding dust from the surface of the wood—I like to use a microfiber towel that can “grab” the dust right out of the pores and scratches of the wood. A can of compressed air or an air compressor can also blow the dust out, but it also creates a cloud of dust in the air. Once the dust is out, hold the piece up to a light (or bring a light to the work-piece if it’s something larger), and view the surface at a very low angle—almost parallel with the surface—to try and spot any serious/errant scratches.

Use alternating sanding techniques to find where (and at what grit) you’re having problems

While it’s not always the best (or most efficient) method in all circumstances, using varying sanding techniques can be invaluable if it seems like you’re running into repetitive sanding flaws in your work, and you’re just not sure where they’re coming from. For example you could sand the first grit by hand, parallel to the wood grain, and then the second grit could be with a random orbit sander, and so forth. Just take care that sanding directly perpendicular to the grain by hand puts some serious scratches in the wood that will be very hard to get out with a finer grit—a better solution would be to sand at a slight left-hand or right-hand angle from the grain, and not to cut directly across the grain.

The success in using this trick is rooted in the simple premise that you should hopefully know the direction and shape of the scratches that you’re putting in the wood. Sanding by hand with a stiff backing block? You should see deep, straight scratches. Sanding with random orbit sander? You should see little tiny circular squiggles all over the surface. Sanding with a pneumatic/rotary sander? You should see broad, circular/arc patterns in the wood. By changing the pattern with each successive step, you’ll be able to tell by the direction and shape of the scratches where you went wrong. When you finish sanding and find a flaw, you’ll be able to say something like this: “Okay, I see there’s still some swirl marks in the wood, which are 100 grit scratches made with my random orbit sander; I followed that up with some 180 grit hand sanding that apparently didn’t get all of the previous sandpaper’s scratches out. I need to spend more time at 180 grit to ensure I remove all the 100 grit scratches.”

2. Using incompatible products

Oily tropical hardwoods can cause a lot of problems; essentially, the finish seems to stay wet and tacky indefinitely. This is due to the antioxidants present in the heartwood, which prevent the finish from properly curing (through oxidation). This article explains the problem as well as possible solutions in more detail.

Even if you are using a finish-friendly wood species, you may still have trouble when using a combination of two or more products that are incompatible with each other. In short, oil and water don’t mix! Try to use finish products that all use the same base solvent. If you absolutely must use some specialty product somewhere in the finishing process, a good rule of thumb is to try to use shellac as a peacemaker between two incompatible coats. The adage goes “shellac sticks to everything, and everything sticks to shellac.”

Lastly, in rare instances, steel wool can cause problems when used under water based finishes. Namely, the tiny particles of steel will rust when in contact with water. (Use bronze wool instead.)

3. Not enough coats of finish

Most people are looking for the fastest, easiest wood finish. This is a perfectly understandable impulse, but if you’ve put all that work into a project, it makes sense to finish strong.

The temptation is to only apply one coat and call it good enough. However, the quality and protection of most film building finishes (such as polyurethane, lacquer, and shellac) goes up exponentially on the first few coats (e.g., there’s a huge improvement in durability and moisture excluding effectiveness from coat #1 to coat #2, and another big jump from coat #2 up to coat #3.) After maybe 3-4 coats, the benefits of increasing film thickness diminish somewhat. See this article on wood finishes for more info on what finishes work best in certain situations.

One last tip that will increase the clarity of your wood finishes: when building up wood finish film thickness, use a glossy finish. Even if you want your final sheen to be satin or low-gloss, I recommend using high gloss on the initial coats whenever possible. This is because most satin finishes contain a flattening agent that dulls the surface of the finish, and can appear cloudy when built up in several layers. Instead, simply rub out your final finish layer (see tip #4) or apply a satin or low-gloss finish as the final coat of your finish.

4. No rubbing out

Most of the time, when advocates of only using a single thin finish film complain that thicker finishes look “plasticky,” it is usually because the finish was slopped on in several thick, drippy, gobbledy-gook coats (polyurethane is chief in this trespass). I would agree, such finishes do look like cheap plastic, but that isn’t solely due to the number of coats of the finish, but simply that the number of errors, defects, and unevenness in each coat accumulated without correction until you are left with one thick, bumpy, coat of clear plastic.

Consider this: many guitars are finished with ten or more coats of spray lacquer. Most of us would not say that the mirror-polish on guitars is plasticky at all. What’s the difference? After all those coats, the guitar’s finish was sanded level and then rubbed out.

The art of rubbing out is perhaps too long to go into detail in an overview article like this. In a nutshell, a sufficiently thick film is applied to the wood surface and allowed to thoroughly harden over several weeks. Then, the finish is sanded flat and level (the thickness of the finish helps create a buffer so that the sandpaper will not actually cut through down to bare wood during this process).

Next, with a perfectly flat and uniform surface, the finish can be buffed up to whatever sheen is desired for the piece. (One additional mistake that can sometimes get overlooked is when no pore filler used, which means that on many porous woods, even with ten or more coats of finish, the pores still leave an uneven surface after leveling.)

Honduran rosewood psaltery back rubbed out with #0000 steel wool
Psaltery back rubbed out with #0000 steel wool and then polished to a high sheen

For most beginning woodworkers, an easy way to get familiar with the process of rubbing out is to simply apply a few extra coats of wood finish to your project, and then sand it lightly with 400 grit sandpaper to remove all surface dust and irregularities. Then use #0000 very fine steel wool and rub the entire surface of the piece, this will leave a very pleasant and uniform satin finish that softly diffuses light.

Are you an aspiring wood nerd?

The poster, Worldwide Woods, Ranked by Hardness, should be required reading for anyone enrolled in the school of wood nerdery. I have amassed over 500 wood species on a single poster, arranged into eight major geographic regions, with each wood sorted and ranked according to its Janka hardness. Each wood has been meticulously documented and photographed, listed with its Janka hardness value (in lbf) and geographic and global hardness rankings. Consider this: the venerable Red Oak (Quercus rubra) sits at only #33 in North America and #278 worldwide for hardness! Aspiring wood nerds be advised: your syllabus may be calling for Worldwide Woods as part of your next assignment!

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Karie

Hi, I am in the process of priming and painting a dining room table. I have stripped and sanded off the old layers of paint to the bare wood. I am now applying primer and sanding to apply paint. Although my surface with the sanded primer feels and looks smooth, I can see the roller marks ever so slightly, the look of ever so tiny bubbles. It is smooth to the touch, I followed your direction of graduating grits and stopped with a 400. Will this show through with the paint? I am using Sherwin Williams urethane hybrid paint. Thank… Read more »

Karie

Thank you for your reply I have not applied the paint yet, as I am concerned these tiny marks will show when painted. It is a 7ft round flat surface table made from pine.
Also, will the pinewood marks show through when painted? I can see their formation through the primer. How many coats of primer is too many?
Thank you

Karie Bearden

No, not yellowish stains. I think they are called knots in the wood. Maybe I’m asking, how smooth should the primer be before applying paint?

Susan

Hi Eric, thanks for sharing your knowledge and experience. I absolutely love your website. I’m preparing to renovate my stairs. I removed carpet to check what’s underneath. The wood seems to be in quite poor state, with lots of cracks etc. I read online that first step is to remove the old carpet glue. I have tested various scrapers but when I touched the glue it became very sticky and black (see pictures). I’m wondering if you have any advices how to do it right?

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Amber

Hi!!
I drum sanded our living room with 36, 60, 80, 100 grit. The worst part though seemed to be the edges! I’m terrified of staining and having it look bad (on the edges). I attached a couple photos of the work I did. One is before I edged then another is after. I used a hand orbital with 60 and 80. I’m going to hand sand with the grain to get rid of further disk marks. Any opinions?

Zach

My boss had me power sand the bottom, pealing parts of a wood finished front door, we applied a new stain and everything looks great except the parts we sanded are dark red and entirely noticable. I’m sure this is a stupid question, I’m not a wood worker but I don’t think my boss knows what to do to fix it. Just logically, I imagine we will have to sand the entire door.. remove the stain and start over.. at least that’s my fear.. any advice? Because I don’t think he’s gonna want to do that and will just leave… Read more »

Pat B

Addendum: the surface is not smooth; it is advertised as “distressed” but appears undamaged . However , the grain markings are rough , the fingernail catches in them

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Pat B

Second reply today: It seems some people advise using a finish stripper on veneer to reduce the sanding required. I seem to have an oil based finish. Should I? If so, what? Also, do you agree that the coarsest sandpaper on veneer should be 120? Thanks, this is intimidating!

Pat B

I thought I had replied, sorry. My goal is to urethane the table for heavy kitchen use, which is what I bought it for. As below, my tests suggest that the existing finish is oil based but not sealing well. I hope to keep the stain if possible and still get a really protective urethane job. Since it is veneer, I think starting with a finer grit sanding might be sufficient- and not sanding as much? I know usually you recommend lots of sanding.

Pat B

Please help! I need to urethane a pretty new stained “ash” veneer table made in China because I want to use it as a kitchen dining table and counter. I tested the finish with alcohol, acetone and mineral spirits and nothing much happened. The mineral spirits seemed to rub in so I imagine it may have an oil based finish. I have read a lot about sanding prior to urethaning, but doesn’t that remove all the stain? Yet photos seem to show urethane being applied to lovely sanded surfaces that have stain. I am not qualified to stain – i… Read more »

Pat B

Thank you. I thought the grain was natural, as you say.
So my sanding will indeed take off the stain. What a shame. I am nervous about sanding, especially veneer, but even more about staining!
Any suggestions about avoiding going too deep on the veneer when sanding? Should it all be done by hand ? Is it a problem if any of the natural grain indentations remain? Thank you so much! I have no experience with sanding, (except for painting), or with staining.

James De Bono

Hi, I’ve applied two coats of stain then one coat of clear. After putting on the clear I have used a 220 Grit to do a light sand as it says on the tin. After doing this I noticed some areas particularly around the edges of the table have become white cloudy. If I rubbed this with water it seems to disappear but then comes back again. What do you suggest I do?

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Brettney Perry

I accidentally started sanding an old wood painted stair rail with 220 grit sander paper what should I do to fix the mistake

Liane Knall

Hi Eric just sanded down my sideboard (my first time) on staining it noticed where it had been sanded down near the curves on top there were some scratches so sanded them out but now after staining again it’s lighter will I be able to correct this without having to sand down the whole top again ? Thanks in advance

Becky

Hi, Eric! Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge. I was wondering if you could help me with an issue I’ve been having with red cedar. I get red cedar slices locally and they always have some gouges that I have trouble sanding totally away. Is there any technique you would recommend to get rid of the gouges totally? I think they are gouges from the chainsaw used to cut them.

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Becky

Thank you so much for your reply. I’ve been thinking of getting a random orbit sander and now I’m most definitely getting one! Thanks again!

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Gina

Hi! I am refinishing our front entry doors, and am finding that I am creating marks that look like water rings from sanding though layers of stain. I’ve stripped off the polyurethane and top layers of stain, but now I have myself in a cycle that seems to be getting worse. It seems like in order to get below the “rings” I have to sand a 1/16 inch or more, which isn’t realistic to accomplish for the entire set of double doors. Have I simply ruined this area and should move on? Or is there a product that can remove… Read more »

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Gina

Eric, Thank you for your quick reply! Here are a few more photos. Indeed, it is truly at least 1/16 inch. And oddly, I don’t believe it’s veneer. It’s a solid oak door, and the wood grain seems to be identical through the layers that I’ve sanded. At this point I’m not sure there is much I can do, except move on and try to use a stain or finish that hides it. I’ve tried a dark stain – espresso. And I’ve tried a lighter stain with green undertones. The lighter green seems to work best, though certainly not perfect.… Read more »

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Sana

Hi I sanded some large scratches on my hard floors and now the sanded areas when mopping gets wet and takes time to dry. I tried using multiple coats of Liberton sanding sealer but those parts still get wet. Please help!!!

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Sana

Hi Eric thank you for your reply is there any recommended finishes I can use?I really appreciate the help!!

Sverre Strom

Hi, I found your interesting web page when searching for a strange issue I have after sanding our stairs at home. I live in Norway. The stairs are made of pine I assume, and I’m using a (Bosch) multi sander. It has 22.000 rpm with an orbit diameter of 0,06” (1,6 mm) When sanding with grit 40 (parallel to the wood grit)I noticed that I got some strange lines crossing the wood grit, but only near the end of each board. I tried to remove it with more parallel to the wood grit sanding movements, and also with the next… Read more »

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Sverre Strom

Thank you for your answer. I checked again, and yes I could feel the deepest lines, not sure if they came from the sander.
Anyhow, I managed to get rid of most of the lines, this time sanding manually, including the intermediate grit. I will take more care on the other stairs, checking after each grit level.

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Karson Craig

Hi Eric. My husband and I are taking on the task of refinishing our hardwood floors. We rented some sanders and sanded them all and have applied our first coat of stain. We’re staining them dark, which looks great, but after the first coat we have found spots that we didn’t sand the old lighter yellowish stain/coat off and now we have spots in the floor that don’t match. Can we just go through with a small orbital sander and sand those patches down some more and re-stain? My husband seems to think we need to re-sand the whole floor

Bradley McPartland

Hi, We had floating (engineered) floorboards sanded back today and they have applied o n e coat of finish. They are coming back tomorrow to apply another two coats. There was no one there this a when I checked on the floor but I noticed a number of regularly spaced horizontal white patches especially on the darker boards. See image. Any ideas what these marks are? Thanks

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Bradley McPartland

Hi Eric,
Not sure whether you overlooked this post? I can’t see a reply anywhere?

Brad McPartland

Thanks Eric, The sander reckons it’s in the wood. I send a photo to another sander who said he has seen this occasionally and said it is in the wood and has something to do with the boards laying on racks during the manufacturing process. The marks in the wood are where the wood was lying on racks?

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George

Can anyone help me with some sanding tips, I started making handcrafted oblique holders for calligraphy for my partner, and I come across the same problem when I sand it down, other than the pores, I get a bit of wood that chip, like splinters? if that makes sense, can that be an issue of oversanding?
I have attached a couple of pictures, those are basically the issue I encounter when sanding, I know the second picture is not really sanded but I get those “cuts” at the end product also. which is really annoying :/

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George

Hello Eric, hope you are well, and thank you for getting back to me , I usually get a 7 inch piece of wood which I hand carve myself to a pen , sometimes i don’t see any chuncks like that missing until I start/end sanding and feels, like you mentioned brings it out even more , is there a way to fix that or fill it up somehow ? Other than carve under it ? I’m trying to get as smooth as possible surface , Ofc I know I do it by hand and not a machine, but for… Read more »

Jason

Hi Eric, I’m a newbie to woodwork and have just attempted sanding down and treating my Banister handrail. I had sanded back with 180 then 240 grit, followed by steel wool, cleaned with sugar soap, allowed to dry and then have applied 1 coat (so far) of Liberon Hardwax, but have noticed the grain has come up very dark and there are black spots that have appeared through out (pics attached). Are you able to help me understand what these are and how/if I can get rid of them?

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Brieann

Here’s the image I’m not sure if it attached to my first post. This is all over the entire surface.

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Brieann

Hi, I recently refinished a large parawood table, sanded it all down evenly with 180 grit then used a 220 I between oil based polyurethane coats and I keep getting these strange marks all over it and can’t tell what it is? It’s not picky at all, it’s actually very smooth now, and can not feel these marks. Any idea what it is and how to get rid of it?

George

Eric, I’m the proud owner of a newly installed solid White Oak hardwood floor. Today is our first day back living on it after letting the last coat of oil finish curing. My wife quickly noticed, while getting close to the floor, some of the low-grit scratches that cross the grain across basically the entirety of the floor (In fact, they’re very similar in shape and color as the ones from your nightstand!). I called the hardwood floor team who did the install and they tried to explain that it’s quite normal, that it was from the 100 Grit floor… Read more »

Jack Spowart

Hi Eric, I’m a newbie to woodworking also! I have bought a large piece of beautiful elm, It’s around 180 x 60cm and about 8cm thick, with a ‘living edge’ border down each side. I got it from a local lumber yard and the owner told me to sand it with 60 grit, apply an oil(?), sand it again at 120+ then apply finishing coats(?). I’m looking for a low gloss finish, natural look, but it is a dining table so it needs to be well protected. I’m in the UK, is there any products or advice you would add… Read more »

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Jack Spowart

Hi Eric, thanks for the swift reply! I’ll get some polyurethane for finishing it. Would you recommend doing an initial sanding (using belt sander) at 60 grit, then working up to 80, 120, 160, 180 then finishing it with an orbital sander/hand sanding at 220 grit? Then apply the polyurethane finish and sand lightly between each coat (with 220), and coat 3 or 4 times? Would I need to sand the bottom through from 60 to 220 as well or can I do it a bit rougher as it won’t be seen? And the sides I’ll take great care with… Read more »

Jack Spowart

I forgot to add, what would you recommend doing to the ‘living edge’ sides? I’ve read various ideas from a light sanding to taking a brass brush to it. I’m not sure what the end result of that part should be. And should it also be finished with polyurethane to stop it getting marked from spillages etc?

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Jack Spowart

Thanks Eric, this all makes sense!

In regards to the sides, I want to keep them looking different from the flat top i.e keep the ‘living edge’ look. Would I sand down the sides at all or just brush them and then apply the finish?

Cheers

Jon T

Hi Eric. I just used my dewalt orbital sander (for the first time,complete beginner) on some 50 year old remnant wood. But I keep getting these lines (left to right of the wood in the pic and against the grain). I sanded with 100 grit then 150 then 180 then 220,slowly and along the grain. Pls help. Thanks!

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Jon T

Thanks for the reply. Its actually the same board. The one with the clamp is the before pic, and the unclamped is the after pic. But will try to resand it at a 80grit and work my way up.

Jakir Ahmed

Hi Eric, I am a newbie to woodworking. Started my first project to create a garden table. I made a few mistakes (still learning!). My most recent one is that I joined several planks of wood together with glue and attempted to smoothen the surface by using electric planers on the tabletop. Some parts look great, however, there are some groove lines left from the job. What would you recommend to smoothen the surface? I have a random orbit sanding machine and using 80 didn’t seem to make much difference or should I be pushing to 120 then 150 then… Read more »

Samantha

Hi Eric! I am a complete and total noob, teaching myself everything as I go, and I am attempting to create a wall art series using square wood dowels. I’ve decided in order to get a more even sanding and stain coloration, I am doing my main sanding and staining using full lumber boards, ripping them down and then repeating the process on the two newly created surfaces of each dowel. As you stated though, everything that can go wrong, certainly is for me. The issue that I’m now experiencing is the issue of stain coloration. I am using select… Read more »

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Samantha

Hello again Eric! So! I absolutely abhor waste so today I decided I would strip all the boards down to naked wood again and I did a little research about the frustrations of wood conditioner. Ended up brewing a tea stain to coat each board with in lieu of conditioner, allowed it to dry and hour or so, came back and applied only one coat of espresso color wood stain, and voila!! I now have much more consistent coloration. Never again will I use wood conditioner and I thought I would share. ?? Cheers!

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Michael McCallum

i applied the first coat of Linseed oil to a piece of black walnut that i am using on a project, the wood 1X12 has been lazer engraved. after 2 days the wood developed spots like chicken pocks but flat, what can i do this piece of wood is worth$1,200.00 after the engraving and starting over is not an option, what can i do to get rid of the dark spots. they are about the size of a pencil eraser head

Logan

Inexperienced person here! I bought a piece of butcher block for a desk. I conditioned the wood and stained it with oil based products, I then put my first coat of polyurethane finish down, and waited about 14 hours. the table seemed dry, and was told to lightly sand with 300 grit because the finish was rough. the 300 grit made it incredibly smooth, but now I’m seeing dust scratches in my finish. I tried a tack cloth and a very lightly wet cloth to get it up, but it seems to be coming back. I’m nervous about applying another… Read more »

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john

Help, what has caused these lines? They are only visible in certain light at certain angles. The top is birch plywood finished with a mix of 2pt poly, 1pt boiled linseed oil, and 1pt mineral spirits. My only thought is that I only waited 2.5 days before sanding and buffing.

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I didn’t realize I could only add one photo at a time

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john

Eric thank you for replying to my post, I’m sorry it took so long for me to check back. We have twins and I’m looking for work also. I’ve attached another picture. They ridges are very difficult to see in the photos but my wife,though not bothered by them, does see them as well. They have texture and they are mostly parallel that’s why I don’t think they are scratches. I put on 12-14 coats of a mixture of 2 parts poly, 1 part linseed oil, and 1 part mineral spirits. I waited 48 hours before sanding between each coat… Read more »

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Casey Angelo

Here are the pics

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Casey Angelo

Hi. I found your articles through Google searching sanding techniques. I currently am redoing my sons dresser from blue to black high gloss. I prepped, sanded numerous times, wood filled, sanded, primed, sanded …. exceptionally well after reading multiple advice articles (I get OCD and Anal sometimes). Then painted 3 coats of black high gloss paint – sanding up to 800 between every coat). I’m at the final coat and just sanded again prior to putting on my sealer. Well, sanding reduces the sheen to flat. Do I put on the high gloss sealer over the flat black paint which… Read more »

Noushad

I am working in a trading company, selling wood coating solutions in the State of Qatar, I have seen many things in the wood when our customer using various finishing products,
I would like to share with you the problems which I get from my customers, please gives me your solutions to solve the issue, Hope. you allow me to subscribe here. Thanks

Noushad

I have some Issues, here I am attached pictures is the final panel which coated PU topcoat. we have used colour stain after the sealer coated and sanding, this marking is showing after 24 to 30 hours after the topcoat application,

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Izzy

Hi Eric, I recently just refinished my red oak floors in my house and I followed all the steps to a T and all the rest of my house turned out great except this one area. I haven’t finished staining the area as I know I will have to resand. That being said what grit do I need to go over the marks with and what type of sander? I originally started with drum sanding 36, 60, 120 and then used a buffer to screen with 80 and then 100. No idea how these marks got here as I don’t… Read more »

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Izzy

Resand with what type of sander and Grit?

Jenni

Hi Eric. I am updating a pair of walnut nightstands and have one drawer that is giving me a hard time compared to the others (see the attached photo). For all of the drawers and nightstand bases, I used 80, 100, and 150 grit sandpaper and alternated between orbital and detail sanders and by hand. I have no idea what I did to this one particular drawer to cause the variation in color / make it look like it has zebra stripes, but any input or potential solutions you might have, would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance for your… Read more »

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Melissa

Hi Eric,
I acquired this beautiful Curio, really couldn’t turn it down with the wood shelves and half mirror. The inner bones are beautiful but I have never seen the finish on the outside look so troubled. I have been searching what may have caused this, may someone rushing to Poly it??? Not really sure…I dabble in making things beautiful again, just wondering what my next steps should be or if its too much of an undertaking. I would appreciate some input. Thank you in advance.

Priscilla

Hi I have a couple of questions for you

1. How do I get sanding scratches out of wood? I used way to low of a grit and it made these awful little lines all over my quilt rack

2. I’ve tried to stain this multiple times and it will not take at all I can’t figure it out. I used 80 grit all the way up to 220 and it still won’t take. The stain im using is Stain & Polyurethane royal walnut.

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Priscilla

Is minwax stain and polyshades different then just polyshades? Also should I start the grit with 100? To get rid of those lines?

Priscilla

Hello, so should I resend with 100 grit going up to 220? Also how can you tell its softwood? I’m using minwax’s stain and polyshades antique walnut is that different then just polyshades?

Erin

Hey I started a new project yesterday trying to refinish an old table that has definitely seen better days. There is some damage/rot near the grout line and wondering if anyone had any ideas on how to fix it or make it work. Couple of thoughts i had was: 1. Paint instead of stain (really don’t want to) 2. Create a inlay piece and take out a strip of damaged wood and maybe paint or epoxy it? (never done any of this so will need help/tips) 3. Paint just the center portion and stain the bread bird and putter boards.… Read more »

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cherie

We sanded and restained our dining table. After wiping on multiple coats of stain, we noticed some scratches. Is this because, as you said in your article, we didn’t sand properly to begin with? Can we sand that one spot? Or do you we have to sand the whole table back down to bare wood? (I have a feeling I know what you’re going to say, but I’m really trying to avoid sanding the darn thing to bare wood again.)

Emily

Reposting with photos… Hi, I’m working on re-staining a buffet and am stuck on what to do next. I sanded using 80, 120 & 220 & applied minwax pre stain wood conditioner. After applying two coats of oil based stain theres some shiny spots. It seems like the shiny spots are where the wood is smoother & has less grain. Will this be evened out after applying a polyurethane topcoat? Is there any way to correct this? Thanks!

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Emily Linares

Hi, I’m working on re-staining a buffet and am stuck on what to do next. I sanded using 80, 120 & 220 & applied minwax pre stain wood conditioner. After applying two coats of oil based stain theres some shiny spots. It seems like the shiny spots are where the wood is smoother & has less grain. Will this be evened out after applying a polyurethane topcoat? Is there any way to correct this? Thanks!

Emily

It is just the sheen, color is uniform. Awesome, I will apply the top coat then. Thank you!

Sara

Hi! I am building a bed frame using red oak. Stained and one coat of polyurethane. I tried sanding (120 grit) and scuffed it up quite a bit on the top edge. I am totally new at this, so what’s easier/better…..leave as is; just coat over with polyurethane to protect; or sand out to re-stain and polyurethane again?

Thank you!

Maria

We are staining our yellow pine floor & after sanding using 120 final sand we stained & found these stains on the wood. Can we hand sand them out & then start the polyurethane?

Julie

Hi please can you help ive started to strip the varnish of my old arks and craft table , using 60 grit with a palm sander gone down to 220 but I’ve got some gray areas, will I get rid of it if I keep sanding or is this part of the wood

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Megan

I am redoing an old China hutch and am having a terrible time applying the polyurethane. When I apply the first coat it looks great when wet, however once it dries there are terrible pits, craters and bubbles in it. I started by sanding the wood down starting with 80 grit, then 220 and finished with 400 to prep the surface for staining. It seems as though it doesn’t matter what I do I always get the same craters etc every time. What do you think is causing these problems? I have started the top of the hutch twice now… Read more »

Jehssy

I need help! I’m making a countertop out of a slab of redwood. The sanding was going good. I made many mistakes I was able to fix. Many times I had to go back to a coarse grit and the last time I did that, I used a 40 grit which started causing a lot of scratches in the wood. I’m using a mouse sander and I tried very hard to remove those scratches, I’ve went up to 60 and to 80 grit, tried to not put too much pressure on it and also tried putting a lot of pressure,… Read more »

Rena

One of the most common mistake that people make when it comes to floor sanding is not sanding diagonally.

Daniel

I am doing my first large DIY project. A bunkbed.
I would like to know what to use to finish the frames and all those pieces of wood that are not going to be seen. I am just wondering if is worth to spend time and resources with polyurethane. Or if just a couple of coats of Tung oil or similar would be ok.
I must said that I am living in a humid tropical country and the wood I am using is Cedar.

Cheryl Warner

Please help ??we are preparing to sell house and the front door needed paint. Underneath a coat of red was black and stain. I stripped it down to bare wood. Now, after 3coats, pictures are Friday and it’s horrible!!

Erin

Started a new project tonight and need some advise. I got a piece that was kept outside on a patio for 2 years but it was not meant to be outdoors. I started tonight by sanding it and couldn’t get these dark lines out of it using 60 and 80 grit on a palm sander. Any thoughts on what they are or how to get them out?? Planning to stain the seat and paint the frames so mostly worried about the seat portion.

Erin

sorry thought i had but here they are

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Erin

The seat part of the chair/bench were never painted though. You can see in the sanded one vs unsanded picture how there are dark spots are in the seat too.

Erin

Okay so what is the best way to fix cracks in the wood if it’s getting stained vs if it’s getting painted